Model selection, hummingbird natural history, and biological hypotheses: a response to Sazatornil et al.

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dc.authoridCelep, Ferhat/0000-0003-3280-8373
dc.authoridRose, Jeffrey/0000-0001-5598-7584
dc.authoridDrew, Bryan T./0000-0001-7248-2799
dc.authoridKriebel, Ricardo/0000-0002-1138-7533
dc.contributor.authorKriebel, Ricardo
dc.contributor.authorRose, Jeffrey P.
dc.contributor.authorDrew, Bryan T.
dc.contributor.authorGonzalez-Gallegos, Jesus G.
dc.contributor.authorCelep, Ferhat
dc.contributor.authorHeeg, Luciann
dc.contributor.authorMahdjoub, Mohamed M.
dc.date.accessioned2025-01-21T16:42:44Z
dc.date.available2025-01-21T16:42:44Z
dc.date.issued2023
dc.departmentKırıkkale Üniversitesi
dc.description.abstractWe have previously suggested that a shift from bee to hummingbird pollination, in concert with floral architecture modifications, occurred at the crown of Salvia subgenus Calosphace in North America ca. 20 mya (Kriebel et al. 2020 and references therein). Sazatornil et al. (2022), using a hidden states model, challenged these assertions, arguing that bees were the ancestral pollinator of subg. Calosphace and claiming that hummingbirds could not have been the ancestral pollinator of subg. Calosphace because hummingbirds were not contemporaneous with crown subg. Calosphace in North America. Here, using a variety of models, we demonstrate that most analyses support hummingbirds as ancestral pollinators of subg. Calosphace and show that Sazatornil et al. (2022) erroneously concluded that hummingbirds were absent from North America ca. 20 mya. We contend that biological realism - based on timing and placement of hummingbirds in Mexico ca. 20 mya and the correlative evolution of hummingbird associated floral traits - must be considered when comparing models based on fit and complexity, including hidden states models.
dc.identifier.doi10.1093/evolut/qpac023
dc.identifier.endpage653
dc.identifier.issn0014-3820
dc.identifier.issn1558-5646
dc.identifier.issue2
dc.identifier.pmid36626811
dc.identifier.scopus2-s2.0-85147457744
dc.identifier.scopusqualityQ1
dc.identifier.startpage646
dc.identifier.urihttps://doi.org/10.1093/evolut/qpac023
dc.identifier.urihttps://hdl.handle.net/20.500.12587/25118
dc.identifier.volume77
dc.identifier.wosWOS:001021687300030
dc.identifier.wosqualityQ2
dc.indekslendigikaynakWeb of Science
dc.indekslendigikaynakScopus
dc.indekslendigikaynakPubMed
dc.language.isoen
dc.publisherOxford Univ Press
dc.relation.ispartofEvolution
dc.relation.publicationcategoryDiğer
dc.rightsinfo:eu-repo/semantics/closedAccess
dc.snmzKA_20241229
dc.subjectcovarion analyses; evolutionary constraint; hummingbird pollination; hidden states analyses; rate heterogeneity
dc.titleModel selection, hummingbird natural history, and biological hypotheses: a response to Sazatornil et al.
dc.typeEditorial

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